| Autore |
Messaggio |
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K  Inviato: 30/06/2010, 15:50 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
Le forze aeree israeliane sono orientate verso l'acquisto di un certo numero di elicotteri pesanti da trasporto Sikorsky CH-53K in sostituzione degli attuali CH-53.  Ma, prima che possano averli, dovranno ancora passare parecchi anni. Cita: DATE: 30/06/10 SOURCE: Flight International Israel ditches Apache upgrade plan, commits to CH-53K By Arie Egozi The Israeli air force has decided against upgrading more of its Boeing AH-64A Apache attack helicopters to the manufacturer's Longbow configuration, citing budget restrictions.
Rather than modify its legacy aircraft to the D-model standard, the service will instead equip the type with new weapons, the air force says. One of the systems under consideration is a locally made laser-guided rocket.
Israel's active inventory of new and rebuilt AH-64Ds totals 17 aircraft, with Flightglobal's HeliCAS database listing the service as also operating 30 A-model Apaches.
(Xnir Gallery on flightglobal.com/AirSpace)
The upgrade path had been considered in preference to buying new aircraft from Boeing. But despite the decision not to proceed, a senior air force source says the service's current fleets of Apaches and Bell AH-1 Cobras are able "to do the missions" required.
Meanwhile, the air force will continue to operate its current Sikorsky CH-53 transport helicopters until it can acquire the next-generation CH-53K. All other alternatives "were evaluated and dismissed", an air force source says.
Israel is already conducting a 2025 upgrade programme to its CH-53s, and the source says: "If needed we will prolong the life of this excellent platform until its successor is ready."
The US Marine Corps has a requirement for 200 CH-53Ks, with the service expecting the programme to undergo its critical design review "this summer".
Sikorsky should fly its first prototype in fiscal year 2013, with deliveries to the USMC anticipated to start in FY2015-16 and initial operating capability to be declared in 2018.
© Sikorsky
To be powered by three General Electric GE38-1 engines, the CH-53K will have a maximum take-off weight of 39,900kg (88,000lb).
Separately, Israel has held preliminary talks with Lockheed Martin about acquiring more C-130J tactical transports. The nation will receive its first example in mid-2013 under a $98 million contract confirmed in April, with its initial requirement also covering a further two.
"We want to include additional C-130Js in the next multi-year procurement programme of the Israeli defence forces," a senior air force source confirms. The service has previously outlined a requirement for six stretched-fuselage C-130J-30s to replace its remaining C-130Es.Additional reporting by Craig Hoyle in London .
|
|
  |
|
 |
|
Blade
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 01/07/2010, 19:38 |
|
Iscritto il: 22/01/2010
Messaggi: 916
Età: 20
|
|
Circa 40.000 kg!! Orca miseria!!
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 01/07/2010, 20:28 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
Cita: CH-53K [allo Specchio]: Specchio, servo delle mie brame, chi è ora il più grosso del reame?
Specchio: Al di là dei sette monti strani, nel nero bosco di Medvedèv, nel grande hangar dei sette nani, ora c'è "Halo" più grosso di te!   Secondo "Jane's All the World's Aircraft": maximum take-off weight 56,000kg (123,450lb) 
|
|
| |
|
|
|
duck4
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 02/07/2010, 8:52 |
|
Iscritto il: 22/03/2008
Messaggi: 9150
Località: Roma e in giro per il mondo.
Età: 38
|
|
Tanto per capirci... tutti i C130 fanno 155000lbs al decollo!!! (possono arrivare a 175000 ma non è il caso).
_________________ Volare è sempre meglio che lavorare! Bombing - DuckIl Nostro Tempo 7X 
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 02/07/2010, 12:35 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
 Mil Mi-26Cargo Compartment Dimensions : Floor Length: 12 meters Width: 3.3 meters Height: variable from 2.9 to 3.2 meters C-130H/JCompartimento cargo : Lunghezza: 12,31 m (40 ft) Larghezza: 3,02 m (119 in) Altezza: 2,74 m (9 ft) Si potrebbe persino pensare che i Sovietici, nel realizzare tale gigantesco elicottero, si siano ispirati alle dimensioni interne dell'Hercules. 
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 03/07/2010, 6:38 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
Tornando al CH-53K, ci sono nuove informazioni circa altre forze aeree interessate al velivolo: Cita: Source: Aerospace Daily and Defense Report (Aviation Week & Space Technology)
Navair: Interest In CH-53K Remains Strong
By Bettina H. Chavanne (Jul 2, 2010)
Germany, Israel and Taiwan top the list of countries interested in Sikorsky’s new CH-53K, now scheduled for first flight in 2013.
The heavy lifter, which is headed for service with the U.S. Marine Corps, has suffered from delays, including a slip in initial operational capability of three years, to 2018. The delays seem not to faze the Marines and the CH-53K program office at Naval Air Systems Command (Navair). The extra time “buys [foreign countries] time to make an informed decision,” says Capt. Rick Muldoon, program manager.
Germany operates about 80 CH-53D model aircraft, designated the CH-53G, 40 of which it is upgrading. Eventually, Germany hopes to replace its CH-53 fleet, and the French want to establish a heavy-lift capability for themselves. A key design feature of the future helicopter involves carrying a load internally rather than using sling loads.
Capt. Muldoon feels the CH-53K would be an excellent replacement, and says the internal load requirement misses the point. The CH-53G does not have the capacity even of the CH-53E, which can fly between 125-130 kt. with a stable load hooked to a dual-point system.
“Part of what’s driving their requirement is there’s a perception that you have to bring a load internally so you can go faster,” Muldoon says. “The other argument is that you are vulnerable with an external load.” The Marines disagree, and are providing the Germans with data to demonstrate the CH-53E’s external load capacity. The CH-53K will be able to carry triple loads, a single load on a main hook or a dual-point load, Muldoon says.
The Germans joined representatives from Israel recently for a technical coordination group meeting with Navair to discuss the CH-53K. Taiwan also has “voiced interest” in the aircraft, Muldoon says, and is probably seeking a fleet of about a dozen. Taiwan is interested in have a minesweeping capability on its CH-53K, but without a requirement for that capability on U.S. platforms, that element remains unresolved. Muldoon says the Navy will look at that issue in time for discussions affecting the Fiscal 2014 budget cycle. “We’ll discuss heavy lift and whether airborne mine countermeasures get folded into that,” he says.
.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 05/02/2011, 8:51 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
|
| |
|
|
|
pippo682
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 07/02/2011, 8:37 |
|
Iscritto il: 18/03/2008
Messaggi: 12136
Età: 46
|
|
Beh... un po' troppo guerreggiante per i miei gusti.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Flanch
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 07/02/2011, 16:12 |
|
Iscritto il: 14/01/2011
Messaggi: 345
Età: 36
|
Mirage-IV ha scritto: Interessantissimo l'UAV che subentra in supporto sotto il controllo di una Control Station all'interno di quello che sembra essere un Osprey. Per quanto ne so, gli americani stanno studiando UAV che opearno in link con velivoli (ad esempio conmbat UAV che scortano bombers garantendo la difesa aerae).
_________________
Flanch
Old Warriors never die
|
|
| |
|
|
|
rombodituono30
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 11/02/2011, 10:05 |
|
Iscritto il: 21/01/2011
Messaggi: 58
|
Questo fà paura ragazzi!!!
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 15/03/2011, 21:22 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
Anche se si tratta di un velivolo di ben diversa categoria, Israele non disdegna di fare un pensierino anche sul V-22 "Osprey" ... Cita: DATE: 15/03/11
SOURCE: Flight International
Israeli air force to take second look at V-22 Osprey
By Arie Egozi
The Israeli air force is again evaluating the possible purchase of the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey tiltrotor.
In 2009 the force stopped the evaluation after two years of work.
But in a rare statement to the air force magazine, Maj Gen David Barki, head of the helicopter air division, said that the air force is considering future procurement of the V-22. "It is not included in the multi-year plan that will terminate next year. But one option that we consider for the future, is the V-22. This aircraft can give us operational capabilities that we don't have today."
Israeli experts say that the new interest in the V-22 is for fast deployment of Special Forces troops and medical evacuation.
Meanwhile, the V-22 fleet has surpassed 100,000 flight hours. The milestone arrived on 10 February during a US Marine Corps MV-22 combat mission in Afghanistan.
"The V-22 is proven and forward-deployed, supporting combat operations and responding to contingency operations around the world," says US Marine Corps Col Greg Masiello, head of the V-22 Joint Program Office at Naval Air Systems Command.
"The Osprey brings unprecedented range, speed and survivability to the warfighter and will continue to excel in combat and remain ready, effective and survivable," he says.
Dopo tanti anni di sviluppo, tanti problemi e, purtroppo, tanti morti, sembrerebbe ora che la macchina si stia avviando verso una normale vita operativa ... Auguriamoci sia proprio così ... 
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 23/03/2011, 9:55 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Mirage-IV
|
Oggetto del messaggio: Re: Israele guarda al nuovo CH-53K Inviato: 17/09/2011, 9:43 |
|
Iscritto il: 15/05/2010
Messaggi: 976
Località: Nord Italia, non lontano dal mare
|
Aggiornamento sul programma CH-53K ... ... Sikorsky si accinge a fare un'offerta ... potranno mai rifiutarla?  Cita: DATE: 15/09/11
SOURCE: Flight International
Sikorsky reveals plan to offer CH-53Ks to USAF, US Army
By Stephen Trimble
Sikorsky has revealed long-term plans to offer the CH-53K heavy lift helicopter to other US military services, including the Air Force.
The CH-53K is currently in development to replace the US Marine Corps' CH-53D/E fleet with an even larger helicopter, powered by three 7,500shp (5,516kW) General Electric GE38 engines.
The aircraft has long been considered an alternative to a possible future growth version of the US Army's Boeing CH-47F/G Chinook.
Sikorsky also envisions a long-term requirement for the CH-53K by the Air Force Special Operations Command.
Discussions have not yet taken place formally, but the topic has at least been broached, Tim Healy, Sikorsky's director of Air Force programmes said. "I'm sure it's been talked about at bars," he added.
Healy identified airlift and special operations roles as possible missions for an air force variant of the CH-53K.
Sikorsky is designing the helicopter to carry up to 15,900kg (35,000lb). That figure compares well to the maximum normal payload of a Lockheed Martin C-130J, according to a USAF fact sheet.
"The air force has an airlift and [special operations] mission that we don't know where they will be 20 years from now," Healy added. "If the air force is interested in lift more than speed, this would be attractive."
The CH-53K could also be offered to meet the army's requirement for a joint multi-role heavy helicopter, which is intended to start replacing the CH-47 early in the next decade, Healy said.
|
|
| |
|
|
|
Il meteo su Washington
